tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post3011395858097232380..comments2023-07-06T14:50:06.294+03:00Comments on Ki Yachol Nuchal!: Riots and Reactionsrutimizrachihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06809119908148195009noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-28097457378348432972009-07-29T19:23:22.773+03:002009-07-29T19:23:22.773+03:00flies with honey- good point.flies with honey- good point.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-47414609517557691322009-07-28T10:52:40.278+03:002009-07-28T10:52:40.278+03:00Just two things;
1. When in doubt consult the Tor...Just two things;<br /><br />1. When in doubt consult the Torah as there is where you find the truth.<br /><br />2. to quote my first Rav from before i became religious, Rav Garcia who had over a million followers said, "All i want to know is are you kind". <br /><br />As we approach the last of the 9 days that is the real question, Are you kind. When we realize that the letter Aleph is the first letter of our alphabet, as a letter with the gematria of one it teaches us one G-D. however when you spell it out, Aleph-Lamed-Pei = 111, this stands for one G-D, one Torah, and one Jewish people. once we remove the labels we are all Jews and that is what we need to remember. If we can't get along in the holy city of Jerusalem as one people what hope is there for us. when all Jews respect each other and then we respect G-D and his Torah then there will be hope.<br /><br />That is my two NIS now i will go back to my cave to study.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04661411575039128239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-4378445033032126462009-07-26T15:56:18.790+03:002009-07-26T15:56:18.790+03:00You are insightful, as always, Ruti.
For Rickismo...You are insightful, as always, Ruti.<br /><br />For Rickismom... Am I "buried"?! "Embedded", perhaps? My "self" is not "buried" by haredi culture -- rather, my "haredi-ism" is an expression of my self and my relationship with Hashem. <br /><br />If you follow the Twitter link to me that Ruti left at the end of her post, you might have some stereotypes shattered.<br /><br />SarahSarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739758434030002252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-91960438713570722672009-07-26T14:47:59.005+03:002009-07-26T14:47:59.005+03:00As far as the parking lot situation the method of ...As far as the parking lot situation the method of protest is<br />both stupid a slap in the face to<br />those normal haredium who live thier lives and let others live thiers. Jerusalem is a city dependent on tourism and a majority<br />of the tourist are not even Jewish.<br />Something had to be done to accomidate them. Rioting asnd rock<br />throwing is not the answer. In fact<br />it is a desecration of Shabbos.<br /><br />The woman accused of abusing her<br />child was handled poorly by the<br />police. Her being pregnant should<br />have been taken into consideration<br />and she should have been put under<br />house arrest or taken to a mental<br />hospital not thrown in jail. But<br />again rioting is not the answer.I<br />am also concerned that young children are in the front of the<br />rioters from the pictures I have<br />seen. Destroyng traffic lights and<br />burning garbage also only turns<br />the public against them as who<br />is going to have pay for the damages they caused.<br /><br />The situation hurts those who are<br />really against violence. But they refuse to speak up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-79954999752786590192009-07-26T14:09:54.418+03:002009-07-26T14:09:54.418+03:00Rioting does NOT work. Three years ago, there was ...Rioting does NOT work. Three years ago, there was Haredi rioting over a guy who was accused of killing his son. "Blood libel" screamed the riotors. Today he sits in jail, despite all his supporters.<br />Two years ago it was a Gay pride parade. "Abomination" screamed the rioters. Now it is a yearly event.<br />Parking lots will be opened on Shabbat and child abusers will go to jail. The only thing riots do is display the intolerance and sheer primativeness of many so-called religious people.yardenhttp://crossingtheyarden.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-82106478005255756002009-07-26T11:25:15.427+03:002009-07-26T11:25:15.427+03:00Oy..At the rate we are going in our Sinat Chinam w...Oy..At the rate we are going in our Sinat Chinam we may never C"S see the rebuilding of the Beis Hamikdash (may it come speedily, in our days!) But Klal Yisrael MUST WAKE UP and realize that if we do not begin to love eachother we will destroy ourselves C"S.<br /><br />Please Klal Yisrael, I am not saying that I am perfect, but if we do not admit that we have a problem we will never get on the path to fix. Please keep in mind, especially in these next few days, remember why we are in exile, and that ACHDUS (loving our fellow) is the only way to see the end of this Galus. I am tired, I want to go home, and I want home to be a place of Ahavas Hashem, Ahavas Torah, a bayis neeman and a day of Shabbos for all eternity, BIMAHEYRA BEYAMEINU!!! We are all brothers and sisters, lets show our Tati that we are listening to the messages He is sending us, that He is waiting for us to make Tshuva Shleima!!!<br /><br />To all of my brothers and sisters, may Tati open up your hearts to not only love Him and His Torah, but that we all learn to love eachother, "Ish Echad, B'Lev Echad"!!Sheyna Arielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17690086063592468980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-61555007103862088642009-07-26T10:36:12.171+03:002009-07-26T10:36:12.171+03:00"Rioting doesn't win hearts and minds. I..."Rioting doesn't win hearts and minds. It improves nothing."<br /><br />I don't think I can agree with that statement. I think that without a reasonable forum where ideas and opinions are discussed and reasonable compromises can be reached, riots are unnecessary. And given your point #1 followed by point #3, point #2 (rioting #1) was certainly an effective means of conveying their message. In other words, rioting worked. As they say, crude but effective.<br /><br />There was negotiation. Which turned out to be lip service. When a politician flexed his political muscle against an ethnic because he thinks he can, that's offensive and truly bigoted.<br /><br />There are many problems with this whole issue on many political and religious levels, but I think that the more we support the notion that Yerushalayim is really our Ir HaKodesh, and the Jerusalem Municipality should <b>not</b> be trying to contrive ways for the city to condone a chillul Shabbat, the sooner the government will realize that they have a higher responsibility and Authority they have to answer to.Hasbara With Attitudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00237601564432595085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-42140135155464822902009-07-26T10:12:27.286+03:002009-07-26T10:12:27.286+03:00Thanks for the reminder. There are hotheads on all...Thanks for the reminder. There are hotheads on all sides. We must not let them pull us down to their level. G-d said it clearly, we must love the fellow Jew. We are fighting ourselves. As we fight, our enemies get bolder and fire up the furnace for Satan. Jerusalem is burning. We can not build the Temple while we destroy each other.<br />May we make peace between all Jews and see the rebuilt walls of Jerusalem soon. Princess, great pictures and well done. BearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-42858746803472405942009-07-26T09:28:32.492+03:002009-07-26T09:28:32.492+03:00Thank you, but why is your friend "buried&quo...Thank you, but why is your friend "buried"?rickismomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07817042750959998664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-81653554957402782032009-07-26T09:14:27.336+03:002009-07-26T09:14:27.336+03:00Miriam, I don't disagree with you. But I pass ...Miriam, I don't disagree with you. But I pass through the Bar Ilan intersection every day. Last week, I had to literally take my life in my hands to cross streets there because the traffic lights were vandalized and the traffic police were doing their job: focusing on the cars and not the pedestrians. That intersection has had numerous deaths of pedestrians in the past and I was just plain scared last week.<br /><br />This was not "a few bad apples." This was not tens, but a couple hundred rioters. Yes, the rabbonim came out against the violence. But this is exactly my point. If HaModia is saying "a few bad apples" they are just as guilty of misrepresentation of the situation as Ha'aretz or any other paper.<br /><br />I personally know of numerous times HaModia and Yeted have published "facts" that were mistakes. I don't trust newspapers, and I don't think anyone should quote them as holy writ or absolute authorities. EVERY newspaper has an agenda to push. There is NO objective reporting these days. Even if they are trying to be objective, they are going to make mistakes. The reports have personal opinions and that WILL affect how they report a situation.<br /><br />That's why I'm begging klal yisrael. Just go to each Jew you know, and love that person. Forget about the media. We have one Torah and one Land and we are one People. We don't need a dozen newspapers.<br /><br />MAN! Will I be glad when the Samech Mem lets up. I'm tired.Ye'he Sh'mey Raba Mevorachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10880916203103730085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-62161691509018647832009-07-26T08:18:28.323+03:002009-07-26T08:18:28.323+03:00If you read this past Shabbat's English Hamodi...If you read this past Shabbat's English Hamodia, you will get a totally different story about this mother and her child and all the rioting. The secular media loves to inflame any story that vilifies the Haredi world. I know many Haredim and they are good descent people who give of themselves every day. We mustn't let a few 'bad apples' destroy an entire population.miriamhttp://miriamswords.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2873285922620200649.post-30888124404181861742009-07-26T08:04:26.017+03:002009-07-26T08:04:26.017+03:00Thank you thank you THANK YOU Ruti for asking so m...Thank you thank you THANK YOU Ruti for asking so many of the questions that are bothering me as well as some others.<br /><br />Rules of thumb:<br /><br />Do not believe ANYTHING you read in ANY paper (even Hamodia, Yeted or Mishpacha, or Makor Rishon or ANY paper).<br /><br />Do not discuss how you would do it differently. You are not in control on any level.<br /><br />Expend your energy in loving one another, seeing the good, and weighing your words. Remember, we see the world through a keyhole.Ye'he Sh'mey Raba Mevorachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10880916203103730085noreply@blogger.com